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Wednesday, October 11, 2017

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In reply to AK's comment that not having a cap (i.e. CPF annual contribution limit) would be a burden to the system,





全自然 said...
I am not convinced how can more money by contributors in CPF be burdening the system. While the return of CPF is higher than fixed deposits or bonds, the money is locked almost permanently, well you get what i meant.

To give a comparison, a whole life insurance can give a compound return of 4%, the insurance company will welcome more money if you are willing to put in.








AK said...
I spoke to a CEO of an insurance agency before and he says that he does not even try to sell private annuities because there isn't any out there that is stronger than the CPF Life.

The returns from private annuities simply cannot match CPF Life's.

What does this suggest?

CPF Life is not commercially viable. It exists largely because of government intervention.

If a product is not commercially viable, it is a burden to the provider.


For people with more money, once they have maxed out their CPF membership benefits, they can always get private annuities to supplement CPF Life if they like.




CPF Life is a part of CPF's strategy to help all members achieve a basic level of retirement adequacy. It is a basic safety net.

CPF Life aside, paying 4% to 6% interest for savings in the CPF-MA, CPF-SA and CPF-RA is a huge burden. 

Even paying 2.5% per annum for our CPF-OA savings could be considered a burden to the system because our AAA rated Singapore government is probably able to access cheaper funds. This could change in future, of course.







If we have more money, we have to look elsewhere to stash it.


I am sure insurance companies will welcome our money but I am not sure they will be able to guarantee a return of 4% per annum. 

These days, such a guarantee would be quite a burden.
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6 comments:

Spur said...

Hoho ... banks & property developers will be very unhappy if allow super rich to stash away unlimited cash in CPF...

We need the rich to oil the machinery of SG economy --- invest in startups, expand businesses, buy more properties, buy more Ferraris, buy yachts, buy helicopters, buy private jets, buy spaceships, Michelin dining, buy more stocks, accelerate the velocity of money...

If the rich all kiam kana like some of us here, don't think there'll be much to discuss about stocks & REITs on SGX sia hahaha!!!

AK71 said...

Hi Spur,

Who are the rich people here who kiam plenty plenty har?

I stay in private condo and have a car. So, not me. I am innocent. ;p

MSAPersonalFinance said...

Hi AK71,

CPF interest is not guaranteed but so far it doesn't really fluctuate.

AK71 said...

Hi MSA,

The CPF interest rates have been affirmed every six months for years. I believe the government is waiting for the 10 year bond's coupon to catch up before allowing the CPF interest rates to float.

Spur said...

Haha AK :) .... OK, ok you're doing your part! Heehee!

Kiam kana like me will surely crash SG's economy for sure (not that I'm rich horr)! I'm just glad that most people are helping to grease the economy! ;) Hoho...

AK71 said...

Hi Spur,

In the last few years, I have become less tight fisted with money. ;)

Bad AK! Bad AK!

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