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Thursday, October 17, 2024

In recent times, I have found it much easier to talk to myself on YouTube.

It is faster than blogging.

This explains the greater number of videos produced compared to the number of blogs I have published.

Although it is expeditious, YouTube is only good for sharing what would require less mental processing on my part

It is good for sharing content which I have at my finger tips which means I could simply ramble while still making sense.

For anything that requires me to think more deeply and to organize my ideas, I find writing to be more effective.

This blog is going to be about something which has required more thinking on my part.

This is really inspired by 2 comments in my most recent YouTube video.

If you have not seen the video yet, here it is:




One reader told me that I am growing older and I should spend more of my money before my health deteriorates.

I know the reader means well but I have very little interest in spending more money than I do now.

In case you are new to my blog and think that I live like a pauper, I don't.

I own a condominium apartment and I have a car, for examples.

Very big ticket items in Singapore.

Still, I must accept that I am growing old, not just older.

Another reader provided the numbers by saying I would be 55 years old in 2 years from now.

Then, he asked what would I do with my CPF money and if I would choose the FRS or the ERS?

Both these readers' comments got me thinking.

That's a problem I have always had.

I think a lot and some would say I think too much.

You know what people say about young people.

They think that they are invincible and have plenty of time.

Well, I am not a young person anymore.

Although I am still relatively sharp mentally, I can tell that my memory is declining.

According to the doctors, this is normal but I am more worried about dementia now.

So, although I have said before that if we are savvy investors, we would choose the FRS and invest the rest of our CPF money ourselves, I could change my mind.

This is really consistent with having a crisis mentality.

Always asks what could go wrong?




Although it is still true that if we are savvy investors, we could possibly do better investing our CPF savings in excess of the FRS, there is this question of age related issues.

What if we become mentally infirm in our old age or, worse, middle age?

For most of us, the answer to this would be to have a bigger stream of passive income which does not fluctuate with market conditions.

CPF LIFE would fill this role admirably and by choosing ERS, we would allow it to do better.

ERS is not just for those who are not savvy investors but for anyone who wants to have a greater level of certainty in retirement funding.

I am aware that the interest accumulated in the FRS or ERS in order for CPF LIFE to provide us with an income for the rest of our lives goes into a pool and would not go to our beneficiaries in case we should bid farewell to this world earlier than desired.

However, CPF LIFE is an annuity and it is an insurance product.

It is an insurance against longevity risk.

As with all insurance products, it is about pooling resources from many to protect against shared risks.

We might not like the idea of having interest accumulated on our savings going into a pool instead of our beneficiaries but if we should be blessed with a long life, we would be dipping into other people's money in the pool as our own would have been exhausted.

We must remember that CPF LIFE is a retirement funding tool and not a legacy planning tool.

Take the good with the bad.





With this in mind, I checked my latest CPF OA and SA balances.

CPF OA

$768,628

CPF SA

$350,678

I also checked what the FRS would be like in 2026 which is when I turn 55.

55th birthday in the year of 2026? 

The FRS would be $220,400.

ERS would be twice that sum or $440,800.

My CPF SA should grow to about $380,000 by 2026 just from interest earned, assuming no further contribution on my part.

If I were to go for the ERS, it would mean having the entire sum migrate to the newly created CPF RA plus $60,000 from my CPF OA.

This would give me a monthly income of about $3,400 from CPF LIFE Standard Plan from age 65.

This is quite possibly going to be more than enough to cover the basics in my life.

Of course, I am hazarding a guess here since who knows what the world would look like 10 years from now?




As I grow older, I find myself less inclined to tinker with things.

I value simplicity more and more.

In the last podcast I did with The Fifth Person, I said that I had little or no inclination to look at new stuff when it comes to investments.

I am just looking at what I already have and waiting to add to what I think are strong businesses which would pay me through good and bad times.

Having said this, true to the spirit of this blog post, there could come a time when I might not be mentally well enough to make such decisions.

Making full use of CPF LIFE would help to mitigate this risk.

Of course, all of us are different and what gives me peace of mind might be a source of discomfort for others.

If AK can talk to himself, so can you.

Relevant link: CPF LIFE.

6 comments:

SnOOpy168 said...

Well......that milestone in life - reaching Age 55. The New ERS - being 4X BRS will help to build that monthly income for life. Recalled reading somewhere that we can top up to each year's new ERS and jiak maximum interest with a view of an even higher CPFLife payout. Hopefully, the OA to RA transfer is allowed for this. We need to be healthy to collect this payout for as long as possible. Huat ah.

mysecretinvestment said...

Hi AK,

I too had decided that I wanted a steady stream of income for my wife and I in our old age for life. Being 10 years older than you, when we turned 55 in 2016, the FRS amount was very modest and the projected payout at 65 was about $1,300 pm each. We felt that it was gravely inadequate and we immediately topped up our RA to the prevailing ERS in 2016. since then every Jan each year , we have been topping up our RA to the prevailing ERS of the year. And next year when the ERS is raised to $426,000 we will top up our RA again to that amount. Including the interests earned over the years, our RA will cross $500,000 each next year. Even then, we can only expect to receive $3,000 pm each at 65, on Standard Plan. At least the payout will be for life.

And indeed, as we get older, we want to simplify things. Thats one reason why we have been channelling funds back to our CPF. Our combined OA will be able to generate about $73,000 of interest annually from next year.

The CPF alone can thus provide us a passive income of about $145,000 each year combined from both our CPF Life payout and our interest from OA.

By the way, I would like to say thanks to you for your selfless sharing. I have learnt and implemented some of the things you shared into my own financial planning. I have actually written a blog post on what I have learnt from your sharing in my telegram channel: https://t.me/CPF_Tree/3458

Thanks again and do keep talking to yourself.

Staerfeldt said...

Hey AK, been a while. Quick update, I had also retired at 49 and not missing corporate life a bit :) Thanks to the gov, CPF managed to past 1.2M this year and am also looking at ERS to keep things simple. Upon reaching 55, I am thinking of using CPF as a bank, with OA giving a min 2.5% interest - not terrific but risk free (have other investments). Wondering if we can top up to ERS using cash instead of using our OA? If Yes, will u do that?

AK71 said...

Hi SnOOpy,
I think the FRS is determined by cohort. By extention, so is the ERS. I don't known if things have changed. 🤔
The Minmum Sum which was what the FRS was called has not changed for my mom in years, apparently. 😷
As for having a long life, there is a downside since the fixed sum of monthly payout will shrink in value over time. Won't be worth much by the time we are 90. 😅

AK71 said...

Hi MSI,
I should have read your comment before reading SnOOpy's. 😅
Good to know that we can top up to the new ERS yearly. 💯
That would help to deal with inflation but it would only work for people who have spare cash.🤔
For elders who depend solely on the monthly payout for a living, it would be difficult to set aside part of the money to do more top ups 😷
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experience 👌

AK71 said...

Hi Staerfeldt,
When we turn 55, money in the CPF OA is cash. So, what do you think? 😋
A savings account that pays 2.5% p.a. without us having to jump through hoops is terrific to me. 🎉Nothing like this from the banks. 🤭
We are so fortunate to be CPF members. 💯
Congratulations on your early retirement 🥳


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