Wondering about QAF Limited (Updated).

Pulled pork as Rivalea calls off IPO
The Australian, November 7, 2017
(See Comments section at the end of this blog.)

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7 October 2017

Reader:
Hi AK, thanks for the session (i.e. Evening with AK and friends). 

QAF has received shareholders approval to list it's primary production on the ASX. 

Since management has not indicated that the proceeds from listing will likely not translate to special dividend for shareholders, hopefully they can put the money to good use to expand their operations in the Philippines. 

Wonder when the share price will be appreciated by investors and truly appreciate upwards.




AK:
I dunno if the share price will move up or not. One off gains are one off. So, don't place too much emphasis on that. 

Although QAF has a good track record, we could see lower share price if the pork oversupply situation in Australia is prolonged and lasts for several quarters. Earnings will continue to suffer then.

Off the top of my head, in such a situation, we could see $1.00 - $1.10 a share then. 

As QAF should be able to maintain its dividend, I am staying invested and getting paid while waiting.



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Reader #1:

I wonder if any of your readers have written to you recently about the longer term aspects of QAF- both in dividend yield and share price?

Reader #2:
Hi AK, I know you are an investor in QAF Limited. Any reason why the share price is plunging? I know a long time director just stepped down last year. Do you think that has an effect?

Singapore's Longest Sandwich

AK:
Don't ask me about share price. Ask Mr. Market. There is no way I can tell how prices might move now or in the future (with certainty). Past prices, I can tell you easily.

Dividend yield? That partly depends on share prices. Refer to what I said above. ;)

There will always be challenges in business. I will say that QAF's track record is a good one and I can only hope that they continue to bring home the bacon (and bread). ;p



Of course, QAF is not just about Gardenia bread although that is what most of us know them for. QAF is also in the business of pork production in Australia (i.e. Rivalea) which is doing very well. 

It was only a few years ago that Rivalea's viability was still a big question mark and some readers might remember that I blogged about it too. 

Now, Rivalea stands shoulder to shoulder with Gardenia in importance to QAF.

Of course, with the strategic review to improve value for shareholders still underway, it is difficult to say what will happen in future but it is reasonable to assume that any action taken will probably result in value being created.

The "worst" thing that could happen from the review is for QAF to maintain the status quo. To an investor for income, this is probably not really a bad thing but to a speculator, it could be.

Know our motivations as investors and know our investments. Then, we will know if the investments are appropriate for us.

If they are appropriate investments for me, I will stay invested. The day they are no longer able to do what I think they should do for me is when I would probably let them go. Time will tell.

Que sera sera.





Slides presentation on Rivalea:
HERE (published in June 2017) 

Related post:
How much is QAF worth?

Healthy cash flow is most important.

Reader says:

Time flies and I'm glad to have taken your advise previously to do well in studies. 

I am currently reaping what I've sow for my study & career.

Good news is that i have gotten a job that pay me well compared to my first job 3 years ago; i got close to 50% pay increment!

However, my life had been quite a drama due to conflicts at home. 


So, i end up moving out, renting a room to keep myself in peace. 





With that, expenses increased and i am having difficulty sustaining it.

As i am single (28 years old) and I have to wait to reach 35years old to be eligible for a hdb bto 2 room flat (considering the waiting time for BTO or higher price of resale flat). 

I am currently thinking of getting private property (studio) which if possible, i would like to save enough downpayment before committing to own one.

i calcluated at least 3-4 years of saving to reach that goal. 

Do share with me your opinions too to handle my current situation






AK says:

Whether to buy or rent a property, especially if buying a property is going to strain your finances, the Rule of 15 helps you to stay grounded.

http://singaporeanstocksinvestor.blogspot.sg/2017/05/to-rent-or-to-buy-rule-of-15-revisited.html

Think carefully what is the financially most prudent thing to do when it comes to housing for you now.





Reader says:

That is a interesting rule to use as a guide, but does other factors affect the outcome if we factor in the inflation, demand & supply of housing and uncertainty of the house value in future?


AK says:

It is about cash flow.

How can we tell what the demand and supply situation is going to be like in future?

The Japanese didn't know they were going to suffer 2 decades of decline in housing prices.

The Americans didn't know they were going to suffer a huge crash in housing prices that wiped out 10 years worth of wealth.

If cash flow is going to be an issue, forcing ourselves into buying a private property because we fear prices are going up higher in future is silly.

Too many people have too much of their wealth stuck in their homes. 

This is why so many people in a wealthy nation like Singapore must work till the day they die.





Reader says:
I see, thats is a very good insight for me to learn. 
i trust your experience in this.

AK says:
Alamak. 

Don't trust me. 

I don't have a crystal ball. 

I cannot see what the future is going to be like.

I am just saying that we should stay prudent especially if cash flow is tight.

If you have plenty of money lying around and cash flow is not an issue, then, if you want to take a bet on property, go ahead.

Having healthy cash flow is always important.





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