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Is Nio the new Tesla? Buy or don't buy?

Tuesday, May 24, 2022

This is not something you would expect to read here in ASSI.

AK is known for investing for income.

AK doesn't invest in innovation and tech.

AK is boring.

Hey, AK put some money in Chinese tech and even Bitcoin recently.

OK, ok, it is true that my exposure to Chinese tech and Bitcoin is tiny relative to the size of my portfolio.

Oh, the shame!


Anyway, I have been looking at Nio recently after reading news of its pending secondary listing in Singapore earlier this month.

I know a little bit about EVs and their production now.

I also know that Nio has a horrible balance sheet.

Nio is still burning cash.

It looks like a terrible business to invest in.

However, that's what Tesla was doing in its infancy, burning cash.

Tesla was burning cash and on the verge of bankruptcy when trying to get the Model 3 right.

From what I now know, Tesla struggled for years before turning profitable.

Although I have done some research, I am sure I have only scratched the surface.

This is very similar to how much or, more accurately, how little I know about Chinese tech and Bitcoin.

Not knowing a lot but enough knowledge to get me to put some money to work.

What about Nio?

There are so many things which I have found out.

However, two points stick out for me:

1. Nio is still burning cash but we have Tesla's experience to quite possibly show Nio the way to the future.

2. The Chinese government also seems to have put its weight behind their EV companies which is very OP (which means "overpowered" in gaming lingo) and Tesla did not have this.

Although putting money in Nio now is probably more speculation than investment, these two points gave me a nudge.

Do not underestimate the will and ability of the Chinese government. 

This is something I have heard often enough.

Going by the global narrative, EVs will most likely continue to replace ICE vehicles too.

Don't fight the trend.

It is obvious for some time now that EVs are going to be a big part of our future but AK is myopic and could not see it until recently.

Very cham like that.

Still, even myopic AK can see why some call Nio the Tesla of China because they make very beautiful cars.

Nio isn't a copy of Tesla.

Nio strikes me as being very innovative.

A problem with EVs is that some countries like Singapore do not have enough charging stations and Nio solves this problem with battery swapping stations.

Battery swapping also takes less than 5 mins while getting an EV fully charged could take an hour or more.

It is such a simple idea but also absolutely mind blowing.

Very impressive.

Source: Nio.

Will Nio succeed as a business?

My bowling ball put on its crystal ball costume and told me that Nio would most likely succeed.

Nio has been ramping up production and deliveries.

It might still be early days but it is probably a matter of time before Nio turns profitable.

In the meantime, they just have to continue to ramp up production and deliveries while narrowing their losses.

Indeed, they have been narrowing their losses.

Anyway, now that I have become a Nio shareholder, am I less boring of an investor?

Chinese tech, Bitcoin and now Nio.

I don't recognize me anymore.


You blur?

I also blur.

Technically, Nio's share price has been down trending.

However, I see a positive divergence with the MACD.

This could indicate that selling pressure is weakening.

If the share price has not bottomed, a bottoming process has possibly started.

Nio could be put in the same boat as my foray into Chinese tech.

We could be seeing a bottoming process but it could be some time before we can call a bottom.

So, I remind myself to eat crusty bread with ink slowly.

Just like my investment in Chinese tech, I am limiting my exposure to Nio to 1% of my portfolio for a start.

An eventual cap at 2% or 3% of my portfolio which is what I have in mind for Bitcoin as well might be a good idea as, to be honest, Nio is still pretty speculative as an investment.

Even though Nio's share price has declined significantly from its peak which was a ridiculous price of US$67, at a price of US$17 or now US$16 a share, we are still assuming that Nio will eventually grow its profits relatively quickly when it does become profitable.

It is only prudent not to throw in everything including the kitchen sink.

With my initial investment in Nio at only about 0.3% of my portfolio, I have just gotten a foot in the door.

Throwing money at Nio is very likely more proof that AK is mental and that his condition is getting worse.

Don't play play and anyhow follow.


Just when I was about to publish this blog, I found out that Nio will be included in the Hang Seng Tech Index on 13 June.

So, Nio will be rubbing shoulders with BYD, Xpeng and Li Auto, the other big Chinese EV companies in the index.

This means that I will have exposure to Nio through my position in Lion-OCBC Securities Hang Seng Tech ETF too.

This simplifies things for me. 

Now, I can abandon my plan to add to my position in Nio as I much prefer adding to my position in the ETF instead. 

Won't have to deal with concentration risk when Nio is still loss making. 

I have, therefore, added to my investment in the ETF again which brings it closer to 1% of my portfolio and partly because things are looking less negative chart wise to me.

So, has this Nio blog been a total waste of time then?

Oh, well, at least it got me to do more research on EV companies.

Still, I could have spent the time gaming instead. 


On the subject of gaming, updates to Genshin Impact have been slow due to the COVID-19 situation in China and Neverwinter has been slow to roll out their new module too.

This explains why I have been blogging more frequently but this is about to be fixed.

Genshin Impact is getting up to speed with new versions announced for end of May and also the middle of July.

Neverwinter is launching their new module, Dragonslayer, middle of June.

So, don't be surprised if I disappear from real life for a while.

Good luck and have fun!

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For those who are interested in Nio's SGX filings, see: SGX Filings by NIO.


Daniel Yip said...

Thanks for the info, I will follow your path to add HS Tech ETF instead of adding Nio to my portfolio, haha

Unknown said...

Hi AK,

I wonder whats your view of TSLA after your EV research.

Anyway it seems that BYD ELECTRONIC in the HSTECH index is the mobile subsidiary, not the EV one.


AK71 said...

Hi Daniel,

Glad to have company. ;p

Having a small exposure to Chinese tech is probably not a bad idea. :)

AK71 said...

Hi KK,

Tesla's valuation still looks pretty expensive to me even after seeing the share price suffering a 45% decline from its peak.

Of course, Tesla is profitable now while Nio is not.

Still, Tesla's PE ratio of 90x now is pretty mind boggling to me. O_o

If we look at Tesla's EV/EBITDA, it truly hits home how expensive the valuation is even now. -.-"

Tesla is now trading at a price to sales ratio of about 12x.

When Nio finally turns profitable, could it trade at the same ratio?

Nio is currently trading at a price to sales ratio of under 5x.

I must say that investing in EV companies is unchartered waters for me and I am not sure if this is the correct way to look at them.

laurence said...

AK71 is the Elon Musk of Little Red Dot!!!! 0;)
Elon Musk also believes in China's economy and invests in Bitcoin and Chinese EV !!
AK will soon be the richest man in SG !!!

AK71 said...

Hi Laurence,

Even if I put my all my wealth into EV companies and even if they go up 10x, I wouldn't have the kind of money Elon Musk has. LOL.

My recent moves into Chinese tech and Bitcoin are more experimental than core activities for me.

I am a retiree and investing for income is what I do for a living.

Cannot be too adventurous.

Rellangis said...

Hi AK,

Buying into HSTech ETF does not give out dividends right? In that case, how do you plan to monetize your investment? Selling them when the price is right?

AK71 said...

Hi Rellangis,

Yeap. No dividends.

So, this investment in Chinese tech is purely for growth.

It has taken me too long to realize that these tech companies are entrenched and will become more so.

Still, I am only nibbling.

There will come a time to let go but at least for now I don't know when that might be.

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